.... to hear that the SEC vote to charge Goldman, Sachs was 3 to 2. Here's the actual complaint ->
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2010/comp21489.pdf
In that complaint, one will read that Paulson & Co. paid Goldman, Sachs $15 million to set up the transaction that led to over $1 billion in losses (see paragraph #5). Goldman, Sachs has not yet denied that charge. If true, in my thinking that is a smoking gun for the guilt of Goldman, Sachs ... and Paulson & Co. in an insidious conspiracy to defraud investors. One simply cannot take undisclosed money from one party while purporting to work for another. Since Paulson & Co. paid the "fee" - how can they not be responsible, too ?
Why would an SEC commissioner vote not to proceed ? Both were Republicans. I suppose IF I was a conspiratorialist, I'd think they were paid off or in the pocket of the rich & powerful Wall Street crowd. But as I like to joke (with truth), I've seen black helicopters, so if I can't see a conspiracy, it's likely not there. In this case, I think not.
Perhaps they wanted the SEC to try to settle first. That is the prior SEC modus operandi aka m. o. aka method of operation. Maybe. But after the Panic of 2008 and all that pain caused by Wall Street and the beefers, why keep that old m. o. ? That did NOT serve the public in the past, but was a means for the clique of ruling class lawyers to keep nefarious deeds as quiet as possible. Hence IF that was their reason, it was wrong.
Some Republicans (and even some liberals) have a knee-jerk anti-government reflex action. That's not so bad to have. I have it, too, as a good Fraternal Libertarian. Government fails in so many things it purports to do. BUT any Republican or anyone else with a bit of historical knowledge should know that great Republican President, Theodore Roosevelt, led the fight to bust the big trusts who were strangling the nation to get more wealth for themselves. And one should note that the first Republican President, Abraham Lincoln, favored well-structured internal improvements. The simple fact noted above should have neutralized any knee-jerk reflex against a strong SEC move. Hence IF their knee-jerk anti-government philosophy was the cause for voting no, that was wrong, too.
Therefore I'm disappointed in the Republicans, just like I was on the first TARP vote, which they defeated for incorrect knee-jerk anti-government reasons. That was a massive error that helped let the Panic of 2008 grow to epic size. The markets have only just recovered to pre-first-TARP vote levels. The public really needs an open hearing on all the crimes of Wall Street. This should be a start.
Republicans, think about Theodore Roosevelt's leadership. Stop being stupid and rigid. Adopt some of Theodore Roosevelt's populism. That is the key to winning elections now. You have to be more "Pro common man" .. well, perhaps more like a Fraternal Libertarian :)
Word of the Day
"Marry" - interjection [$10] - this is use #2 in dictionaries; archaic (often used in Shakespeare plays as an interjection.
Marry (2) means expressing surprise, asseveration, indignation, etc. [Middle English from (the Virgin) Mary]
Sentence: Marry, why did those Republicans votes against charging Goldman, Sachs ?
Analogy for understanding its usage: mild interjections that are very common today are "Christ!" and "jeez" (from Jesus), or even "Jesus H. Christ" !! Even "gosh" and "golly" arose from "God!". In Shakespearean times, an interjection that arose from Mary was ... marry !
Tuesday, April 20, 2010
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good morning Bman !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bman do you eat sushi ?? is there a good sushi restaurant near you ?? had some last night......couple miles from me...Heart Rock Sushi
Bman you are salivating and frothing and getting lathered up over this SEC complaint.................like...............well..............when frosty gets his panties wet over pictures of justin bieber
Bman you sure seem to have alot of faith and confidence in chris dodd and barney frank and the moolyinyan president.......................they only have 1 goal...............redistribution of wealth
Bman do you really in your heart of hearts believe....................that GS would intentionally create a security that was designing to fail.............and then intentionally sell that security to a customer ?????
yes, I love sushi. I have it twice a week when possible (Monday & Thursday). There is a fine take-out sushi place 2 miles away; it compares well to good NYC sushi places.
I have no faith in any politican, but I think voter anger & fear of election defeat will push them to do at least "some" of the right thing.
Yes, I think intentionally created a security that was likely to crater in order to curry favor with Paulson and let him make money.
He probably paid them huge commssions, etc.
They preferred him over IKB, etc. - they were the dumb money they were willing to see get crushed.
Bud, did you ever read Liar's Poker ?
btw, I personally knew a few of the characters in Liar's Poker.
I also have personal knowledge of other thievery, and intent to effectively steal from clients, by Wall Street executives, some of whom have gotten a lot of press in teh last three years. One became a top Treasuiry offical, another was indicted.
So my "opinions" have quite a bit of support.
All that is one reason my partner & I quit to run our own firm. We couldn't work in such a den of thieves.
Bud should we fade this pop at the bottom of the trendline???...Did GS/SEC top the market????....thanks
17 points...nice job Bud re BIDU thanks pal
"The public really needs an open hearing on all the crimes of Wall Street."...have you lost your mf mind sir.
lolol frosty ... nope, I'm in touch with the common man on that one.
I've taken soundings lately ... after "certain" accusations of being too much of a recluse.
that payment to Paulson is such a smoking gun, this needs aired.
Bunkerman I will ask again sir...did GS deny you a job sir?
you guys ... I think Bud asked that once before.
I interviewed with them at MIT B-School, but they weren't looking for people like me then and there ("quants" for investment banking). They wanted people with more "people" skills and social background, etc.
I went to work for another big firm who was looking for IB quants.
Until the traders took over, I respected Goldmans Sachs. By the way, I feel the same way about ANY Wall Street firm run by traders; GS is just an easy target.
'went to work for another big firm'
lol..........Bman gettin all defensive................well done ace..........but that was pretty easy
not defensive, just being accurate to shut down the rumors.
heck that was easier than I thought...that was a lite jab...
I thought my reply blocked that "lite jab" rather easily, to keep the discussion on point, which is GS knavery.
:)
We'll have to leave that up to the judges...I for one am skeptical sir...
Bunk....have you become content with your 4 World Series rings??..... If you were Big Stein, would you trade Bunk?
content ?
Aftrer all the superb post of the past few weeks, including that fine series on Capitalism & Socialism.
Compliments have rained in to me.
I'm batting .400 and with a slugging pct. of over .600
was Liz's "sell all"..the rich mans panic of 2010???
GS darkside
nailed it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hit that mofo at 166 ish premkt.............made a few bucks............blip hit Bman ????
danke vielmals briefng-tader !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gteat job bud
Way to go Bud!!!
that's awfully white of you men.
good to see us treating each other with a lil respect...wishin each other well for trades rather than the bash brothers style
lol Rodney King's vs. dyslogism.
nice to see commentors not misprizing* others
*a future Word of the Day.
;)
REED
nailed it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
quick 50cents poparoo............was in it maybe 25minutes.............blip hit Bman ?????
danke vielmals jim !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
uh Bud ... if it's not $1, it's a prima facie blip.
REED...wowza...what a great pick...unreal...how did you find it?
Sal...WWE have yer lil pakisacki in a vise sir.
serenity now !!! serenity now !!!
Bman it's out of respect for you i am not 'misprizing' the others here..............whatever that means....
if not for that..............i'd have a certain commentator here crying
" moderator moderator............
well, I appreciate that. There are ladies reading this often, even other than Mrs. B.
In my "humble" opinion, one can cleverly & humorous 'misprize' something without the F-bombs.
Such as when I call something "boob bait".
Well said Bunkerman...Bud throws some four letter words around and thinks he "wins"...makes no sense sir...Im sure the moderator would agree
'ladies' lmaooooooo
who ?? oh......you mean frosty.......true........ he is a lady.........and ace is a girl
btw, I think Mrs. B stopped reading the comments a while ago, but I know other ladies read them.
"Mrs. B stopped reading the comments a while ago"...or someone won't allow it...perhaps she was falling for the frostman....nono worries, only a matter of time.
sorry Mrs B...couple of bad apples ...rather parsimonious with the respect towards others...selfish....me..me...me.....pfftttt
lolol she has her own computer. She read the blog.
Bunk thought for sure you'd have smoked patrick out by now ..lol
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yeah, maybe he only comes on when I bash pure libertarians.
Or he's busy with the Brit elections.
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