Friday, April 23, 2010

More GS Subterfuge

Goldman, Sachs seems incapable of conducting an above-boards, clean business. I think the greed for more money & power led them from being the fine, quality firm of the 1970s and 1980s to become a big hog at the trough. Do they perform simple fee for advisory service business ? Nope, they want a piece of the action via their proprietary desk, and they want terms to enhance its profits. Do they do simple underwritings and distributions ? Nope ... gotta get that proprietary desk into the deal. Do they shop orders and take a clean commission ? Nope, again, gotta get the proprietary desk's snout into that trough, too.

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[WSJ] "BERLIN—Goldman Sachs Group Inc. brought investment banking to Germany 20 years ago. Now, many here say it is giving the business a bad name. Goldman's approach to winning business is coming under fire from German officials, companies and banks. The firm's latest headache: A dispute with the city of Berlin, which has accused Goldman of trying to intimidate it with legal threats in order to make more profit from a housing sale. Goldman denies the accusation

"I would not deal with this bank again unless I couldn't avoid it," said Ulrich Nussbaum, the city of Berlin's finance chief, after months of negotiations over Goldman's wish to take public a company that owns municipal housing in Berlin.

"Under its current head, Alexander Dibelius, Goldman's German unit has diversified its business, becoming a major investor in German businesses as well as a financial adviser. That has led to accusations of a conflict of interest from German companies, which have complained privately that Goldman is both their adviser and competitor in bidding for assets.

Here's another example of conflict of interest, from FT:
"Goldman Sachs was both an underwriter and an investor in Lloyds Banking Group's vast refinancing deal late last year, the FT has learned, highlighting the potential conflicts of interest at the heart of the investment bank’s business model. According to four people involved in the capital raising, Goldman – a dealer manager on the debt portion of the £23.5bn transaction – demanded last-minute changes to the structure of a deal it was underwriting. This had the effect of benefiting its position as a bond investor.

"Goldman bankers stress that its Chinese walls bar underwriters from knowing anything about the investment activity of its proprietary traders and say the exposure of the affair reveals rivals’ opportunism in besmirching its reputation.

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Chinese walls ? How laughable.

All these issues are clear as crystal to anyone with a moral backbone. GS doesn't have that. Simple, honest fees & commissions don't make enough money, so they wrap them all up with the proprietary trading desk. Gouge as much as possible from the client.

Why not just rename the firm, Goug'em Sachs.

Word of the Day

"Eructation" - noun [$10]; "Eruct" - verb [$10]
Eruct means to belch.
Eructation means the act or instance of belching.
Sentence: Is Goug'em Sachs anything other than huge, greedy hog eructing after every big feed from the trough ?

64 comments:

Bud said...

good morning Bman !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


had some chicken padthai last night........from my favorite thai restaurant in the world...........Sukothai .............Bman have you ever had padthai ???

Bud said...

does george soros read this blog ?? he wrote an article on derivatives today in ft



http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/707ef202-4e3d-11df-b48d-00144feab49a.html?nclick_check=1

Bud said...

Bman did you ever interview for a job at Goldman ???

Bud said...

wow Bman.............you really 'ain't too bright'

the Europena pols are looking for scapegoats and villains to blame for their economic disasters.........Goldman fits the bill................no one forced the Euro's to do business with Goldman



'the Germans'


gimme a break

Bud said...

hey frosty......do you people consider anderson cooper a national hero ??

Bud said...

European governments been hiding and lying and fudging and twisting their economic numbers for decades......their budgets are all underwater...........greece is the first that got caught...........portugal spain ireland next.......they will all blame goldman

Bunkerman said...

I'm not sure re padthai.

Bud said...

Bman are the proud owner of any Les baer tactical rifle ?? have you ever shot one ??

your thoughts on their rifles

Bunkerman said...

I think we established before that George Soros is a reader.

;)

Bunkerman said...

no one forces an old lady to buy phony life insurance or fraudulent goods, either.

No none forces a "common man" to buy a car that is a lemon, either.

No one forces a rich guy to invest in fake gold mines, either.

"force" is irrelevant in fraud cases.

Bud said...

Bman do you own any of those night goggles ?? you ever practice shooting at night with those on

Bunkerman said...

no, I have no night goggles; do have a night scope.

I've rarely used it.

Bunkerman said...

from my personal experience, the shift in Wall Street from honest fee & commision business to proprietary trades & principal activites was around the early 1990s.

Frosty said...

"“The struggle for world domination will be fought entirely between us, between Germans and Jews. All else is facade and illusion. Behind England stands Israel, and behind France, and behind the United States. Even when we have driven the Jew out of Germany, he remains our world enemy."

Bud said...

Bman have you purchased an Ipad yet ?? how many apps on your iphone have you downloaded ?

Bunkerman said...

I have not downloaed any apps to my iPhone. I don't know how to do that.

The only ones I an thinking of are foreign language dictionaries.

I might get an iPad in the summer, again if I can get good foreign language dictionaries onto it.

Bunkerman said...

uh frosty ... who does Obama look like ?

Hint: initials JG.

Frosty said...

http://blogs.qc.cuny.edu/blogs/0209N0277/001/buckwheat.jpg

Bunkerman said...

that link didn't work, fros, but I sort of guess what it would show

:)

mfl59 said...

Bud what is the probability I get picked in this weekend's NFL Draft?

Bud said...

SPF


nailed it !!!!!!!!!!!!


CHCI


nailed it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





75cents plus on overnite trades............blip hits indeed Bman




danke vielmals jim !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bud said...

STSA

CSNT

BOFL

BBX

IBNK



nailed it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



holy smokes................if u ain't in the tank.............u ain't makin jack..................blip hits keep on comin Bman



DANKE VIELMALS JIM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Frosty said...

BBX...oh man...well played Sal.

mfl59 said...

wow!!!!! how did you find those stocks??? that is unreal....

"52 week high lists are free ya douche"

mfl59 said...

Bud are you a fan of the show "The Real Housewives of New York City"?

Spin-em said...

Mona makes me wanna puke....


sorry Mrs B

mfl59 said...

Bud when you dream about Simon does a nocturnal emission occur son?

Bud said...

you know what your problem is ace ???...............you actually believe someone cares what you think


i got news for you..............no one cares.......NO ONE......you are irrelevant............so ............


'spierdalaj'





PS.............you know what that means Bman ???

mfl59 said...

youre right Bob...it would take less than 15 minutes...sheesh...

Bud good luck in the World Series of Poker

Spin-em said...

Frank Burns eats worms.....

Frosty said...

Sal...slap on a dry turban and hit some emini...order up some padthai and an a side of rat rings...you'll feel better.

Bunkerman said...

yes, Bud ... I know what that means.

Frosty said...

“The internal expurgation of the Jewish spirit is not possible in any platonic way. For the Jewish spirit as the product of the Jewish person. Unless we expel the Jewish people. Unless we expel the Jewish people soon, they will have judaized our people within a very short time.”

Bud said...

Bman is that ok with you ???...............ya'know..........'the ladies'

mfl59 said...

I have the utmost confidence that the moderator will punish Bud for his vulgar language...the ethics and honor of this blog depend on it

Bud said...

frosty i am nailing the ES M0......................it is unbelievable how hot i am in those


i went from hi-school to AA ball in 6 months...........the way i am trading........call up to the majors close



'goin to the show'

Spin-em said...

waaaay to goooo Bud!!...happy for you..for real maan

mfl59 said...

Bud could you post your next trade so we can all profit from your skills? That would be great...

thanks feather...

Bunkerman said...

I have no problem with vulgarities or crude terms in langauges other than English.

Frosty said...
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mfl59 said...

Wow....I would ask that the moderator remain impartial...some non posters believe this is payback for a few bad swings earlier in the week...

Bunkerman said...

I have no problem with anyone posting vulgarities in langauges other than English.

Isn't that impartial ?

Most ladies reading would not become offended with them, as they would not understand what is being said.

Gotta draw the line as far towards complete freedom as possible, being a good fraternal libertarian.

Bud said...

my trades are posted in l'aquarium de requins................you want them.........join it

Bud said...

hey frosty............do you people consider johnny bench a national hero ???

Spin-em said...

mav says you dont post picks ,,,come onnn buddy help uss

Frosty said...

Bunky...is this FUBAR logic day...I didn't get the memo.

Bunkerman said...

Bunky...is this FUBAR logic day...I didn't get the memo

Do you mean my "preference" for no F-bombs in English ???

Bunkerman said...

re Les Baer, no I've never fired one. No opinion.

Bunkerman said...

Mrs. B and I'm sure other ladies, if and when they read the comments, don't like them.

Bunkerman said...

btw, in my opinion, Barry looks and sounds a lot like Joseph Goebbels (= JG)

mfl59 said...

Bunkerman do you know who Josh Waitzkin is? no googling please...

Bud said...

yeah Bman..............i got the JB part............didn't wanna call him a nazi


btw......what was goebbels exertise in ?? propoganda...........sounds like the white house and mainstreammedia copying his strategy

Spin-em said...

here he is speaking about fin reg

http://www.saak.nl/video/totalwar.jpg

Bunkerman said...

Bunkerman do you know who Josh Waitzkin is?

nope, never heard of him

Bunkerman said...

yup, Bud. The Big Lie, over & over.

Bunkerman said...

The voice tones are similar, too.

Some opinions I save for the comments - a special place of "near" complete freedom.

Bud said...

frosty have you been gettin my ES M0 private email alerts ??? what ?? huh ?? no..............awwwww........that's a shame

Bud said...

hey frosty ......do you people consider steve mocco a national hero ??


i know ace does

Frosty said...

here is my new email....

dieflazzholedouchedie@suckfrostystones.com

Frosty said...

Bunky...was machst du denn da? Ist das Wienerschnitzel?

Frosty said...

Und Brötchen?

Frosty said...

eine dose bier

Bud said...

Kisumic frosty

Bunkerman said...

Bunktinis, takeout fish from a fresh seafood restaurant.

enjoy the weekend.