Tuesday, May 27, 2008

"Hmmmmmm ?" Reviewed

The famous bond fund mamager, Bill Gross, wrote a piece about inflation titled "Hmmmmmm ?" for his June "Investment Outlook". The gist of the article is that US government inflation data are wrong.

Hmmmm ... ? My poem fits here,

Sigh,
Why ?

His principle evidence is a chart of a "composite" of the CPI data of 24 other nations that shows inflation near 7% now, albeit that same chart shows the inflation rate for the mid 2006 thru mid 2007 period averaging about 3.5%. The 10+ year mean for that composite for the 24 nations is about 7%. The piece then shows a similar chart for the US headline CPI which is comsiderably more volatile with a mean of about 2.6% for the same period.

The conclusion is something suspicious exists.

He never explains a theory or rationale "why" there should be a connection between US inflation and inflation in other nations. Why is that ? Because none exists. Here are the 24 nations whose inflation data are used to contruct the composite: Belgium, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Estonia, Germany, Indonesia, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Peru, Philippines, Russia, Slovenia, South Korea, Spain, Switzerland, Thailand, Turkey, Taiwan, Vietnam. It's odd that Britain, Canada and France are not included, being large economies, nor is Australia or India. .. or China.

That list should make you think. Also, no data is shown comparing inflation in Germany or Switzerland or Japan, to the composite. That should make you think, too.

Here is some inflation data from this week's Economist magazine, issue of May 24, page 119, for selected nations on that list. These are the latest monthly numbers.

US - 3.9%
Germany - 2.4%
Switzerland - 2.3%
Japan - 1.2%
Chile - 8.3%
Indonesia - 9.0%
Russia - 13.3%

The Economist also gives the "Euro Area" inflation as 3.3% and for China, 8.5%

At this point you can see the "composite chart" is crap - a meaningless amalgamation of unrelated data to make a polemical point. All the real data show is the prices rise faster in rapidly growing, emerging markets ... or in unstable nations. And the rates of headline inflation in the US are roughly similar to the more comparable developed economies in the Euro area or Japan - which given roughly similar monetary policies and G-7 coordination, makes some sense.

So his "evidence" for something suspicious just vaporised with a simple analysis.

He then turned to the "long term" disparity between the core CPI and the headline CPI, showing a three year chart with both plotted as an index values [ not rates of change] arbitrarily setting both at 100 for January 2005. The chart shows the headline CPI continually trending over the core for that period. He says this implies the Fed policy focus on "core" inflation is wrong. Hmmmm ? I wonder what that chart would show over 10 or 20 or 30 years ? Point of original selection for polemics is so common one must really question the choice. Oil prices have risen in that period, true. But since the diffusion of steadily rising oil prices throughout the economy must take a few years as firms and people adjust behavior, why should we not expect that chart he shows to display just the effect it does ? Core will lag the headline as long as oil prices continue to rise as the adjustments must lag the impulse to make changes.

By the way, if prices for some commodities such as oil, wheat, and copper are based of world supply-demand relations, I'd like an explanation of how fed policy can affect those ? Of course, none is ever forthcoming from anyone. In addition, this week's Barron's on page shows the US monetary based grew at that rip roaring rate of ... 0.9% year over year for the week ended May 21. Gollly, the Fed sure is turning on those money spigots, isn't it ? Yes, I am being facetious.

There's more in the article criticizing hedonic adjustments and weightings, but having disintegrated its main evidence and points, why bother with the rest ?

Here's a provocative quote: "Somebody's been foolin', perhaps foolin' themselves - I don't know. This isn't a conspiracy blog ... "

Look, this is Bunkerman writing. I know about conspiracies. I've seen black helicopters fly over my house every Sunday morning for years* ... I live in a bunker with plenty of survival gear stockpiled. I own lots of gold & silver for the unknown. The US inflation data are correct. If people choose higher priced, newfangled gadgets with more capacity instead of being thrifty and maintaining their standard of living, that's their choice. The index is supposed to measure the cost of living, not the cost of living better.

PS: I might address the other points in Bill Gross's article later. But it's time to post this blog ... and get my breakfast.

*lol ... they were from a nearby National Guard facility that had weekend training sessions ;-)

Word of the Day

"Idee fixe" - noun, French [$10], usually printed with an accent on the frst "e" and pronounced "e-day fix"
Idee fix means an idea that dominates the mind; an obsession.
Sentence: In the late 1990s, investors acted under the idee fixe that "it's different now", bidding up technology stocks to bubble levels. Now investors acts under the idee fixe that inflation is roaring so bid up the prices of some commodities like oil to bubble-like levels. Sigh ... why ? Learning the wrong lesson is really dangerous to one's net worth.

38 comments:

Bud said...

this 'no inflation' argument is sounding more and more ridiculous by the day

get your head out of the sand Bman

Bud said...

does alan abelson read this blog??

he used 'exegesis' in his column this weekend

Bud said...

santelli just slammed Bman's 'too much speculation' in commodities


here's the bottom line...........speculators are good ...they provide liquidity and are taking risk creating a more efficient market

Bunkerman said...

what crap - is Santelli saying the hundreds of billion of long only pension fund money flowing into commodities is NOT affecting prices ?

If so he's delusional.

If not, he agreees with me.

Bunkerman said...

Speculation is good ... sure, like it was soooooo good in 2000 in the tech stocks, and was sooooo good in the housing bubble ... and was sooooo good in the credit derivatives.

Liquidity fropm beefers is a delusion of a rising market, when it turns, liquidity "evaporates".

Bud said...

plenty of inflation at the courses i played this weekend

westfield 109

stonewall 119

pleasant valley 85


'15bux'

lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Bunkerman said...

hmmm ... golf ... I wonder what a 1970s tech style set of clubs would cost ?

Maybe $10 on ebay ?

Some "inflation"

Bunkerman said...

The problem, Bud, is there just isn't any rational, non-anecdotal, unbiased evidence that the core PCE is not correct and it's pretty low, a bit over 2%.

Spin-em said...

...that includes golf cart looool

Frosty said...

cart...lol...Bud always uses a caddy or more appropriate, abuses...young white males are his preference.

Bunkerman said...

here's another example of improvements cutting cost of living: email. International calling using Skype ... long distance calling.

All those are much less than the old way of doing them.

mern said...

The Department of Transportation said figures from March show the steepest decrease in driving ever recorded.

Compared with March a year earlier, Americans drove an estimated 4.3 percent less -- that's 11 billion fewer miles, the DOT's Federal Highway Administration said Monday, calling it "the sharpest yearly drop for any month in FHWA history." Records have been kept since 1942


thats not stagflation?

watched a documentary yesterday on the eliptical. this was done in 2006. HIGHLY REC! "maxed out" an extremely sobering looking at how despicble the banks and lenders to the lower classes. never gave it much thought but a majority of thier consumer biz comes at the expense of the lower class. us elitists in the upper class, they barely make a dime of us, in fact pay us a little ( and i mean a little to keep money in savings). it was like super size me but for the fins. no wonder they dont teach fiscal discipline in HS. my employer, citi, visa spend big bucks in dc making sure that doenst happen.

so we have 18 yr old kids with 12 credit hanging themselves in the dorm rooms.

got some great stories from my father in law yesterday. he hand delivers mail, in da hood, of tampa. he actually gets heckled for working. someone actually said "main man u so crazy. let me show u how to work the system so u can get a check from the white man. and do nothing, like me"

oh and in maxed out guess who is getting more screwed in the bush economy than anyone? the vets coming back from iraq.

cindy and chatted yesterday about the housing markets.

a yogi button to whoever can name the 3 worst states that HSBC is having the biggest problems with.

hint florida is not on the list.

signed

staggermern

Bunkerman said...

Driving less in response to higher prices is not stagflation, it's just rational behavior.

When the price of cigars tripled due to Xers smoking them for fashion, that wasn't inflation, either - just supply & demand.

Btw, I stopped then. Haven't had a cigar for years.

mfl59 said...

nevada, arizona, california

Spin-em said...

PA,OH,WV

Bunkerman said...

can't guess re HSBC since I don't know where they operate.

mern said...

all over the country.

spin got 2

PA and OH.

3 shud be easy, and has not been mentioned.

i guess these 3 states r mired in something worse than stagflation. because with stagflation, u have some growth, like .6%. what do u call it when inflation is high and your state is in a deep recession?

http://www.gjsentinel.com/money/content/shared/news/nation/stories/07/22LIBRARIES.html

here is a nice article on libaries being shut down. that is becoming a major problem. guess that adds to the stagger lee thesis.

glad to see gross is in my camp. but he is just talking his book.

lol

Spin-em said...

guess that leaves MI

Spin-em said...

...the bitter states..loooool

mern said...

spin gets a yogi button!

even i was surprised to hear PA.

well if the cnbc economist is right, the cost of importing steel cud reinvent pittsburgh.

spin they gonna reopen da mines in da valley. lotta coal still there, no? economically viable to get to it, yet.

poor philly its biggest natural recession is drug addicts

:-(

bman picked up a superdelegate today. his name is elmer.

stagger lee got one this weekend. his name is warren buffett.

with respect to elmer, here is my thought. during family guy, brian, the dog, was watching tv and he was watching the price is right. bob barker was giving his famous "and have your dogs and cats, spayed or neutered....." brain talks to the TV "oh just die already" (with a martini in hand)

anyone see recount yet? not much new info, but forgot how insane 2000 was. and one little bit of new info blew my mind. the GDP provides the list of felons that cant vote. it isnt a bipartisan made up list. in florida the list had 20,000 people on it, that were not felons. many of those people, mostly blacks, were not allowed to vote.

that movie clinched it for me. no matter what. no matter who, even that bitch hillary will get my vote before throwing bush sr, back into the white.

die GOP die!

they have achieved their goals anyway. as of today i declare the middle class in the USA more dead than jerry garcia. its gone, and nothing gonna bring it back.

upper class about 30 mil


lower class is about 320 mil.

Bud said...

i'm a bit confused?? i thought mern was startin at JPM today

Bunkerman said...

Isn't the beef really that the standard of living of many people is either not increasing or is falling ? A friend made this point to me in an email. So let's call it what it truly is .. a declining standard of living for the common man.

Why bring non-existent inflation into it ? That just confuses the policy responses.

Hmmm ... I guess I have a topic for tomorrow's blog ;-)

Bud said...

there is only 1 person i know that is arguing that inflation is at 2%

it's not even a question or a point of debate anywhere

Harvard educated elites are so out of touch with the real world

Bunkerman said...

For example, computers. Those truly existent quality adjustments do bring the "cost of living" down. BUT don't companies and competitive pressures just make people do more work ... for the same pay.

I remember when word processors replaced typewriters when I was a young investment banker. Did we get extra time for proposals for more deals ? No, the lawyers just made us do more & more drafts and in the end the same business was done and we were paid the same. A document went from 30 concise pages to 150 pages.

Even now, jobs are lost due to computers as the skilled position of secretary is being lost as younger people prepare their documents themselves.

So the problem is the declining standard of living, not inflation or stagflation.

Bud said...

i for one won't debate this subject anymore


i'd rather read frsoty's lame 'jokes' about jizz on the chin and young
white boys

you really are a f'ng disgusting pig

Bunkerman said...

It's not really an "Argument", Bud, when only one side has facts, viz. mine.

Just perception vs. reality.

Frosty said...

atta boy Bud toss in the towel...bunky wins bunky wins...you are weak and broken, I won't pile on...nonono, don't thank me...I feel your pain.

mern said...

jpm start date is 6/1.

a declining standard of living for the common man.

yes i totally agree with that statement, but that is just an elitist term for STAGFLATION.

watch "maxed out" and realize that was when gas was 2 bucks and housing had not wet the bed.

the fins r morally and physically bankrupting the lower class. middle class died. now they just prey on the 80% of americans who r just plain dumb.

my solution here is very left. maybe i becoming a socialist. i say take all the banks private or even give it to the govt, after a realistic plan is created by warren buffett and smart peeps like that, with no agenda other than making america great again.

like my tony montana said in scarface. "u wanna know what capitalism is?........... GETTING FUCKED"

if 90% r getting messed up by the system, is not time to blow up the current system (just like iraq. glass, we need a lot of glass over there. iraq denounces FIFA. thats a gud one. i never ever saw anything like what happened to the usa in the last world cup except for the gold meddle in figure skating. but the olympics fessed up to that mistake and gave the gold to the rightful owners after an investigation. there was no investigation into how those refs were paid, to call it against the USA.)

Bud said...

yeah fine....i'll throw in the towel

you wanna call this a bunky win....so be it.....i don't give a f'k

this debate over inflation is ridiculous and silly........and i'm not gonna engage in this stupidity anymore


PS.......of course frosty likes young boys and jizz on his chin....he is a lil'schoolgirl after all

Bud said...

touch 'em all Bud !!

"get the brooms out spin....it's that time again"

Bud said...

just read the bean recipe


Bman's bunker must smell nice today


lmaoooooooooooooooooooo

Bud said...

Bman can you please post the oil trading schedule


when and where does it trade in new york....i know it closes at 230

resumes electronically at 235???

Bunkerman said...

I guess I'll declare victory in the great inflation debate and tomorrow change the subject to reality. When Bill Gross is so easily vanquished, there's not much left to "debate". Tomorrow my topic is the causes of the declining standard of living of the common man.

Hmm ... was that thunder, or ???

Bunkerman said...

not sure, Bud - I don't follow it closely anymore, and I closed my commodity account.

I suspect the NYMEX website would have it. or ICE.

Bunkerman said...

I still get some commodity research, but not the exchange info.

Spin-em said...

going to take Bud 3 fri nights to shop for all those bean recipe ingredients......

mern said...

In the late 1990s, investors acted under the idee fixe that "it's different now", bidding up technology stocks to bubble levels. Now investors acts under the idee fixe that inflation is roaring so bid up the prices of some commodities like oil to bubble-like levels.

imvho, the tech bubble was pretty easy to predict. i certainly knew in late 99 it was off the chain and by 3/00 i cashed out.

todays inflation is structual. i dont know if i am saying it is different this time, but for decades CRIB lived to serve about 300 mil americans. well now CRIB (china, russia, india and brazil) r getting a middle class, while r's died. thats more like 3 billion people getting that first home, that first car, that first tv, etc etc etc. and now they move up the food chain, start eating meat and protein. on top of that we have a bounce on the greenback all the way to 73, now 72ish, from about 125 in 2000. and we want that! if it becomes too expensive to import from china, maybe some middle income jobs will come back over here, BUT those will be higher paying jobs, thus more inputs on inflation.

the bottom line is even in the 70's it was not this tuff for common folks to make ends meet. the misery index wasnt this high since the 30's. so if the 70's was/is undisputable stagflation, then i dont know what this is. i suppose the ivy grads can prove inflation is a myth, but again go to fenway park and pass out a couple hundreds pamphlets that say "hey u think inflation is out of control. we i went to harvard and i can prove u r wrong" well again, imo, a serious beat down is the best case scenario. possible death, worse case scenario.

agreed 80% of the country r total morons, but even they have started to cut back on spending.

economy growing .6% and bill gross says the cpi is closer to 7%.

imo, 7 to 9% is about right. maybe higher here in florida and a bit lower in ohio, michigan, etc but since those economys r contracting, i can not make the stagger lee thesis for those states.

so who in here wud be willy to take an IOU from bush in lieu of a social security check?

we played so many games since nixon took us off the gold standard, who the hell knows how this ends. but it already ended for the middle class.

gud job GOP and slick willy!

maybe bill reads the blog?

;-)

Frosty said...

Bunkerman...beans...I spend less time researching stocks I own that the bean investment...just sayen'...you should use HOOK as Spin indicated, frosty malted beverages make the meal.