This statement is now proven. For some time I had pointed out how corporate executives use stock buybacks to raise artificially the prices of their stocks so thus to increase the value of their stock options. A dividend doesn't do that, except indirectly by giving long term investors a reason to own the stock. Stock buybacks gives institutions and hedge funds a bid for their sales. So the price of the stock is propped up, financially benefiting the corporate CEO and other top executive.
If those arguments are not sufficient to prove the claim, we now have evidence that stock buybacks are a disaster financially.
GE has announced that it will sell preferred stock to Warren Buffet at a usurious 10% dividend rate. And it will sell over $12 billion of new common stock. Just last week GE suspended its stock buyback program. How much stock did GE buy back as higher prices than it is now issuing new stock ? Billions.
How much stock did WB and other banks buy back at high prices in the past few years - billions that could have forestalled collapse that destroyed the investments of long term shareholders.
From the FT of last Friday:
LEH bought back more that $5 billion in 2006-7
C bought back about $7 billion in 2006-7, but had to sell $7.5 billion in high priced equity to Abu Dhabi in November 2007.
MER bought back almost $14 billion in 2006-2007; it sold itself to BAC for far lower prices.
MS did $7 billion in buybacks in 2006-7 at high prices.
And on and on.
Some pharmaceutical spend more $ on buybacks than on R&D companies.
Oil companies buy back billions, but are rather miserly in raising dividends for long term shareholders.
For all the talk about wanting a long term focus, stock buybacks are just the ultimate short term fix, aiding only short term traders and hedge funds and corporate CEOs with fat packages of stock options.
What to do ?
Be wary of companies that buy back large amounts of stock. The only stock purchases that one can justify perhaps would be buybacks in panics or in bear raids at very low prices, provided the company's financials are truly solid. Even then, perhaps buying back or defeasing debt makes more sense.
Markets
ECB lunacy continues - keeping rates high for fear of phantom inflation. I wonder if the EU can survive if this recession bcomes very severe ? I hope so, but some nations like Germany are remarkably arrogant in their unwillingness to help members with weaker economies or banks. Little unity is apparent.
US Senate passes a funding bill for troubled assets. Maybe R's are getting a bit of pushback now. I am skeptical, but verily have no idea what Congress will do.
I note that for two weeks, Congress has done nothing after Hank & Ben hit the alarm buttons. The fire has spread very far now. Analogies are always just analogies, but we know that putting out a fire is far easier when one gets the water hoses on it early when the fire is small. At some point, the fire cannot be extinguished until the fuel runs out. I don't know where this credit fire is now, but no doubt durable goods sales are being crushed and small businesses are being hurt. Funding for Christmas inventories might be hurt, too. Budgets for 2009 are being considered. And the latest economic data are troubling.
I am very disappointed in DC, but I suppose I should not have been surprised. The extent of both knavery and foolishness there cannot be underestimated.
I continue to focus on Krypto Fund asset allocations and deployments of new cash there. As I have written many times before, the bulk - about 85% - of my investments are there in patient, long term asset classes.
Colossal sums still are "invested" in beefers, but some money is being withdrawn by the foolish rich. I suppose they are dumping it into T-bills now.
The screaming buy in fixed income markets is in municipal bonds. Those are very illiquid, so one must only put very long term money there. Some of my new cash must be invested in fixed incomes classes to maintain my class allocations. I can't bear buying Treasury securities [except TIPs which are now fairly priced] at price levels which are guaranteed to be long term money-losers. So I am buying some municipal bonds. I bought one chuck a couple days ago and perhaps in a month I'll buy more if prices are still good.
Since Obama is likely to be elected and raise income taxes by a large amount, I guess putting some money in municipal bonds is rational now. I don't think he'll tax them [as I advocate] since his friends run those municipalities and his rich supporters own trillions.
Word of the Day
"Palimpsest" - noun [$10]; accent is on the "pal" syllable.
Palimpsest means 1. a piece of writing material or manuscript on which later writing has been written over the effaced original writing; 2. a monumental brass turned and re-engraved on the reverse side.
Sentence: The US Senate last evening approved a palimpsest for its spending bill to regain the initiative in the Troubled Asset Relief Program by massively re-writing an existing spending bill the House had previously passed , which tactic was necessary as the US Constitution requires all spending bill to being in the House of Representatives.
Bonus Quote of the Week
This quote uses today's Word of the Day; is from "The Tycoons" by Charles Morris, pg. 231; and seems particularly appropriate now.
"A troubled company's balance sheet is a palimpsest of past business reverses and managerial misjudgments - the layers of debt and preferred stock pile up like scar tissue ..."
Thursday, October 2, 2008
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I just got off a phone call with an old partner who is still active in private placement of secured loans. Lending completely stopped two weeks ago. No interest in anything.
Not good.
bman- triple AAA muni paper can not get underwritten right now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwkb9_zB2Pg
this is sarah palin at church, having witches spell removed from her.
OH MY FUCKING JERRY! U CANT MAKE IT UP.
she is pretty much as crazy as hitler or bin laden.
thank jerry, mccain doesnt have a chance!
witch craft, really???!!!!!! wow
oh and u believe dinosaurs roamed the earth 4k yrs ago.
that wud be cute, if she was 4 yrs old.
that's terrible Bman.....did you ask him if lending will resume if this package passes??
one of my friends is a car salesman in town........he isn't sure how much longer he has a job if things don't improve
it's a sad day in America when bunk becomes a bear...(Chief spinny turns to camera with tear on cheek)
Bunkerkman a bear....mern buying stock....bizarro world indeed
Not sure if that's true, mern. Mrs. B's broker is offering new issues of A rated muni paper. The A is a solid corporate utility - pollution control bonds.
agreed to some this AM
I can't say I'm a bear, but I'm just worried.
Disgusted with DC.
Pain mongers seem to rule.
Sometimes is take a trigger or a spark to ignite a fire or explosion ... or a seed to form a snowflake ... or an imperfection to bake water boil.
To me, that Congressional vote changed a lot of minds that things were giong to be fine.
Bud, once the door gets closed on new loans, it takes awhiel toreopen it. In 2002 Enron - World Com shut the door for all corporate loans - tok months to receover.
The good side is that corporations are not over-leveraged and ahve strong balance sheets on average.
And there's a lot of cash waiting to invest.
And of course the freedom of people everywhere will help.
But ...
Also, mern, I was trying to buy some good muni's in secondary market and I had to be really fast to get the bonds - they got scooped vast.
I think I missed on three offers by a hour or less.
This is a pure retail broker - no institutiona.
but the broker did say they were seeing more product than usual - maybe some big firms can't sell it all and lay it off to them.
If the bill passes, I might nibble a bit.
sheesh GE broke the offering price.
But who could have any confidence in Immelt now ?
Bunky...how many dirty little jap cars did we smoke yesterday...did you resolve that m-60 heat stress problem...don't tell me you are still weak and unprepared.
today message is louder than Johnny Drama slappin a dead fish on THE HOUSE'S doorstep
Oh, I just capped about 300 rounds of 9mm into some metallic silhouettes.
I was very good - had the entire bursts in the chest area - made a fine ringing gong.
Uzi and S&W 76.
Re the heat stress issue, I replaced the part and switched oils to a thinner one with teflon. I think you are right as this summer I had used a oil that is a bit thicker (has rust prevent compounds) versous prior thinner ones. So I think it is resolved, but haven't fired it much to know for sure.
I can't fire long bursts at my club - only at the special events in VT in July.
Am getting a M2 "ma deuce" soon. Then I can handle light armor.
I wonder if European nations will soom begin to scream at the ECB ?
Bunky...another one of your heros, kudlow, tossed the towel and used the R word...you are the last man standing, well you and W...I doubt we bottom until you make it official.
is this a depression?
well, I already said I doubt that a "real" recession cn be avoided now.
Greenspan says economy faces 'wrenching' crisis, but will rebound ... But that trust should resurface, he said, and investors "will dip hesitantly back into the marketplace." That's when an economic revival will set in, he said, adding: "I suspect it will be sooner rather than later."
I guess Elmer's beefer masters are covering some shorts.
hmm I wonder if I should get some Dow 10000 helmets ready ?
The 10000 on the back.
Bud we taking the Cubs tonight? gonna have to lay a lot of wood...but no way they go down 0-2 to LA.....
plunge in oils & resoures - more beefer liquidation ?
MON rises guidance - getting crushed.
Bunky...what about the blog upgrade...sure the boys can chip in if your a lil light...that picture of Bud chasing sheep is getting old.
sheesh beefer panic selling ... POT down 25% in one day.
I could put a photo of my half-track instead.
Very patriotic with US flags, etc.
bigZ needs to come up big tonite.......dodgers impressed me last nite
manny is a great player and he has turned los angeles into winners
die theo epstein die !!!!!!
cut the crap ! we know you love pictures of sheep and goats
f'ng south alaska hillbilly redneck faggot
Hank gettin a new pen at Sams... ready to write a 200 mil check for manny and destoy the clutch heiter he is......
Hey Liz ya cant blame Bartman!!!
Why woukd the Yanks sign Manny when they already have Mr October himself in their lineup...Arod....lmaoooooooooo
go ahead take your shot at the Metropolitans
Why woukd the Yanks sign Manny when they already have Mr October himself in their lineup...Arod....lmaoooooooooo
go ahead take your shot at the Metropolitans
unlike "some"..I take no pleasure from others pain
ouch.....touche indeed....back to my hole...
looooooooool
at least with Georgie we made the playoffs instead of hoping the sox get beat...lol
now I know how a Seattle fan feels
sweet!.........mfl gives me an axcuse for my fave
Ruth
Gehrig
Dimaggio
Mantle
Arod ....huh??
LET'S GO YANKEES !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Manny 10000X a better hitter than Arod
he get's hits when they count
I think Yogi Berra is #5 on your list, Bud.
Bernie Carbo....
Yaz....
Manny(kicked out)
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lmaooooooooooooooo
PS.......yes Bman ...yogi works.......but spin is a huge Arod lover.......that's what cracks me up
bman, i was simply talking about florida.
was talking to my money manager. remember he only does munis, and been doin it well for over 20 yrs.
thank god ive been long only munis the last 10 months.
still just have the KFT in my ira, the 100 chk, down 10 beans on in a week and 50 GS down a few bucks on.
well u know what i really what to load up on, and i will, when i can.
money manager saying, in florida, a triple AAA revenue bond, can not be underwritten right now.
he has never seen anything like it.
everyone is selling, buffett is buying............
ill buy some GE shortly.
tonite shud put a fork in mccains abortion.
geesh she is one dumb bitch. she cant even remember exxon vs the state of alaska or whatever that was called.
i cant remember, but im not in step to be president if a 72 yr old man with 4 bouts of cancer dies in the next 4 yrs.
what community college did she go to?
joe six pack?
im joe 12 pack, and i am way way way more qualified that her.
thats pathetic!
gezzzuz we get it "mark"
Mush and his cronies need to find a way to "fix" that employment number thats coming out tomorrow...what a pisser it would be if the economy actually created jobs.....
"4 more years!!!"
Mern has proven his judgement of women is beyond compare...besides, he shops sam's club (yankee caps $.19lb).
GMAC pulls $2.7 bln loan sale due to mkt conditions
uh oh
Bman i can't take these 'gloom and doom' and 'fear-mongering' posts from you......please stop
"say it ain't so Bman.....say it ain't so "
yes...turn in your Kudlow USA flag lapel button
Ok ... Deep down I am an optimist ... but an disguised with Congress.
If they pass the bill , I will probably become "long-term" optimistic again.
I guess I am getting my wish - lots of beefers geting liquidated.
Oh well ... if they can be washed out, then a real bull market can begin - not this trading crap we've had for five years.
LMAOOOO...indeed Spinny...at one time this blog read as though the american flag wore a Bunky pin.
"disgusted" with Congress.
I stilll have great faith in the American people and free people all over the world.
:-)
gosh, I guess "inflation" wasn't so bad ...
:-)
Bunkerman are you saying a new bull mkt is contigent on the US House of Representatives.....say it aint so brother!
I stilll have great faith in the American people and free people all over the world.
:-)
ohhh that was gooood....loool
well, a new bull market starting soon is; if they fail the common man, then it will start later.
lol and from a lower level.
We still need this beefer washout.
Je veux une biere.
trading on the floor after the bell???..looool
Michelle, ma belle.
Sont des mots qui vont très bien ensemble,
Très bien ensemble bunktini....
Does Mackie read this bear blog???..He said the Sun will come out....tomorrow
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