Wednesday, June 11, 2008

Big John

I see that Big John McCain reads this blog. Here are some excerpts from his speech on Tuesday, copied from the online Financial Times.

"John McCain on Tuesday promised a clampdown on corporate malpractice if elected president and vowed to give shareholders a veto over executive pay.

"The Republican presidential candidate said government had become beholden to big business and too forgiving of corporate abuses.

“ 'For too long, government has been the voice of big business,' he told a small-business conference in Washington. 'Even when very large businesses violate their trust, they seem to be held to a different standard – getting away with conduct that would leave any small-business owner broke.'

"Mr. McCain said that Americans were right to be offended by 'extravagant' salaries and severance deals for financial sector executives whose decisions had helped cause the crisis in the housing and credit markets.

" 'Something is seriously wrong when the American people are left to bear the consequences of reckless corporate conduct, while the offenders themselves are packed off with another $40m or $50m for the road,' he said. 'If I am elected president, I intend to see that wrongdoing of this kind is called to account by federal prosecutors. And under my reforms, all aspects of a CEO’s pay, including any severance arrangements, must be approved by shareholders.' "

I like this. The Populist Libertarian movement is growing.

More ...

Yesterday's Wall Street Journal had an article about the lavish pay and benefits bestowed on CEOs postumately. This is nuts ... let them buy life insurance with their already high compensation. And corporations for years have bought life insurance on employees, but they keep the death benefits. So this disparity in treatment of the powerful vs. the average Joe is despicable. [Thanks to a silent reader for reminding me of this article.]

And the Financial Times from Monday had a story about "Europe loses patience with its wealthy elite." Here's one of the facts cited: "... the collective pay of CAC-40 bosses leapt by 58 per cent in 2007, inflated by the exercise of stock options." Governments, shareholders and investors in Europe are contemplating how to curb this pay.

The problem is how to do it. Socialists like Obama would want to tax the pay, but all that does is give the governmental ruling classes more money to spend on bribes and payoffs and jobs for their supporters. As a friend wrote to me privately, the preference is to prevent the ruling classes from getting this excessive money in the first place. But how can rules be structured in a free society with private property to prevent them gorging themselves at the trough like hogs at feeding time ?

Certainly precise disclosure and shareholder votes is one possible solution. Thinking ...

Words of the Day

"Irrupt" - verb, intransitive [$10] followed by "into"; "Irruption" - noun [$10]
Irrupt means enter forcibly or suddenly.
Irruption means 1. the act of irrupting, a sudden intrusion; 2. a sudden temporary increase in the local population of a migrant bird or animal species.
Sentence: Will Populist Libertarianism irrupt into the public's political discourse of the US and Europe in the 21st century ? This blog will do its best to propagate these ideas more broadly.

63 comments:

Bud said...

i heard about that posthumous pay yesterday.........what a joke

the guy is dead....but the shareholders still gettin.....uh....looted

Bud said...

Bman did not answer my question yday.......so i'll ask again

does the Bman want day-trading to be outlawed??


PS.....i know the answer but i wanna hear it from him

Bunkerman said...

Hmmm BAC CEO views dividend as safe.

Guess I need to re-buy those hsares I flipped.

Bunkerman said...

No, I think day trading is a fine free market activity that all should be able to do ... but I am concerned about beefer day trading large positions as it is very close to market manipulation.

Day trading by individuals should be completely unrestricted.

Bud said...

sean hannity......great show last nite

the founder of this site was on.......she was pretty hot too

http://www.clintons4mccain.com/index.php


PS......An iruption by Hillary fans will put Mac in the white house next year. (not sure if that is a correct usage)

Bunkerman said...

Some limits on the beefer day trading might be needed. This is consistent with my populist libertarianism - limits only on the ruling classes.

Bunkerman said...

Close, Bud ... but making the thought using "into" makes it correct.

"An irruption by Hillary supporters into the McCain column will put him into the White House."

"As Hillary supporters irrupt into the McCain camp, his prospects imporve dramatically."


Close

Bunkerman said...

hmmm super-beefer economist at GS says this is not stagflation. Just high oil prices.

Bud said...

Bman do you consider yourself a member of the ruling classes?

this shud be good

Bunkerman said...

nfw. Not even close.

Bud said...

seems to me that someone who spends 10k of his own wealth to influence the outcome of a general election is a member of the ruling class

and of course being a 'Harvard man'

how many presidents, vp, sectretary's, ceo's etc.....are harvard grads??? the civil service is full of crimson ( and i'm not talkin about mailmen)

Bunkerman said...

How many Harvard gards are NOT Presidents, Head of Fed, Supreme court justices, etc. ?

It's not a sufficient condition. Each class in the college is about 1500 students. Some become or are ruling classes, but not most.

10K is peanuts ... a person in the ruling classes bundles enough to give 100-250K or more.

Bunkerman said...

Perhaps I could have become a ruling class member if I had wanted to do it, but I don't like to exercise power over people.

Frosty said...

Bunkerman...what year did you move to the US from that communist country...no need to fear free markets...you immigrants slay me, this is america, land of the free.

mfl59 said...

lol did you see if the BAC CEO was hooked up to a polygraph when he made that statement?

Bunkerman said...

All my policy proposals do is modernize those of that great President, Teddy Roosevelt.

Haha, Bunkerman's namesake ancestor goes back to 1650 Virginia. And not slaveowners !

Last line came to US about 1830. lomng before communism.

A true American populist !!!

No aristocrat !!!

Bud said...

polygraph....that's hilarious


Bman needs to wake up

Bunkerman said...

bought some BAC - 50% add back.

Bunkerman said...

those are shares I flipped at 45

Bunkerman said...

thinkking about re-buying some JPM, too.

Bunkerman said...

I'll get the rest near the close presuming it's still "insanely cheap". ;-)

mfl59 said...

most moronic statement on wall st..."there is a lot of $ on the sidelines"

Frosty said...

"AAPL finished"...fine call young man...uuhhhhhh teammate...insert choking sound.

Bud said...

LEH goin belly up????




armageddon gettin closer

Frosty said...

Bunky knocking back the IPA again this morning...think I'll get liquored up and buy some fins...drink those bitchs pretty...five pints, BAC looking good by closing time.

Bunkerman said...

maybe I'm stupidly credulous, but I believe Lewis this time.

Bunkerman said...

that was an IPA I had yesterday ... very fine.

mfl59 said...

BAC green....bunkerman for president!

Bunkerman said...

just paid my estimated taxes :-((( such pain.

Bunkerman said...

not cheering until it hits 45.

Bud said...

'45'

lmaooooooooooooooooo


BAC will hit 45 cents before 45 bux

mfl59 said...

the gues on bloomberg must read this blog...

"there is no inflation...there is a slight decline in the standard of living due to higher oil prices....wages are not rising"

Frosty said...

Bunkerman...what is the fin ax saying about the BAC dividend...merideth whitney spot on to date...she is worth a read...oh course, this is coming form an open minded comman man, hence, dismissed out of hand.

Bunkerman said...

I took down the last 1/2 of the BAC re-buy. I didn't want to sit here all day thinking.

So in 30 days, I'll sell the excess position. If the stock goes no where, I get a nice tax loss to offset my gold gains. If it goes up, I get a good trade.

If down, I get sick :-((

Bunkerman said...

I don't know what she says - I'm not an Opppy customer.

Frosty said...

Bud..."welcome aboard"...open minded indeed.

Bunkerman said...

CAT raises dividend ... uh ...

Frosty said...

she thinks Lewis is attempting to disconnect what has occured on wall street with main street...she has a perform rating on BAC, which is a high rating on her list...but, she notes that 9% yeild could be cut in half and remain attractive...read they will raise captial or chop chop the skim.

Bunkerman said...

I think Lewis would be fired if he cut it that much - that's the level in 2001. From my Blue Book of charts, I see BAC did not cut the dividend in 2000-2001-2002 period.

Bunkerman said...

I'd guess the sellers - telic sellers - are real, probably income funds; plus beefer shorts.

But I think they are wrong. I waas waiting for some clarity on the dividend to do the re-buys. Got enough for me.

But I got screwed by WB CEO ... and he did get fired.

Bud said...

he works in the f'ng mailroom and now he's a bank expert

Frosty said...

Bunkey does not obey the law of gravity...he humors it...190 degree trianlge indeed.

uh Sal, call me Bob.

Frosty said...

backtabacktabacktaback...player of the week...step up or give it up.

Bunkerman said...

The problem with dividend cuts is they accomplish nothing: C, then WB cut and stocks continued to be hammered. JPM did not and has held up relatively well. NCC cuts and goes to the toilet.

I think that lesson is clear.

Hmm I see Whitney is putting a bearish spin: "Bank of America payout may drop if economy slows significantly, says dividend support isn't 'unqualified' "

Oh well.

Bunkerman said...

At some point she will morph into a perma-bear.

mfl59 said...

oil is strong...to quite strong....

sorry for the mush on BAC bunkerman....

Bunkerman said...

I see gasoline demand went back up to a bit under last year's, mostly erasing the big drop I wrote about last week.

Bunkerman said...

np mfl ... beefer computers control all ST moves.

Frosty said...

whitney ala tom brown...pass the ax...she is until she isn't... indeed she will miss the bottom.

Bunkerman said...

she has a big following now, so her mouth can cause a lot of pain. I think she's gotten a bit repetitious, shrill.

Frosty said...

hhhmmm...that is what you said before hildog bit the dust... have dipped the fins with you before, still have some GS from march 162.50...best have an IPA and think it over.

mfl59 said...

does Alan Blinder read this blog?

"high oil prices are not inflation...by all traditional measures inflation is very tame and under control"

Bunkerman said...

this is a very erudite blog; I'm sure many scholars and opinion leaders read it ;-))

Bunkerman said...

But that doesn't make me one of the ruling class ;-))

Bud said...

lol alan blinder


give me a f'ng break !!!!


PS....he prolly went to harvard amd MIT too

mfl59 said...

uhhh, he went to Princeton and MIT....

lmaoooooooooooo

mern said...

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The economy remained "generally weak" heading into summer as rising costs for energy and food pounded consumers and forced some companies to push their own prices higher.

seems like the stock the market is pricing in stagger lee.

one thing i learned early on in this game. the market is never wrong, until it is.

DONT FIGHT THE FED

pfffffffft. that hasnt worked all century.

mfl59 said...

mern is JPM gonna take LEH for $10?

mern said...

alan blinder that is rich!

he brother ran blinder robinson.

u blind em, we rob em.

one of the biggest penny scam EVER.

id bet one straw penny he does not pay his own bills, shop for his own food, ie dont have a clue about inflation.

mern said...

no comment, mfl

;-)


however, BAC ceo is deranged, imvho

Bunkerman said...

I see Whitney waited to near the close to screech again :-(

Bunkerman said...

on the bright side, if she can really knock those two (C and WB) down until Monday, then I can re-buy my flipped shares are great prices.

Frosty said...

Bunky...pop another IPA and relax...are you getting ahead of schedule (buy more fins this fall)...price now trumps time, easy big fella'.