Thursday, November 20, 2008

The Panic Continues ...

The Panic of the Rich continues.

I suspect the common man is panicking, too. Anecdotally, I was speaking to my old insurance agent in NYC, who caters to quite a gilt-edged clientele (much more than me). He told me that stunning numbers of them had, or were, going to all cash and buying fixed rate, life annuities in huge amounts.

Yesterday was no doubt more than tax loss selling, but it's clearly there, too.
From my 100 year wall chart of stock prices and economic indicators, the great bear market of 1973-1975 might be a good model for this bear market. Roughly, the broad averages were down about 45% from the prior year's high. The selling continued into the end of the year, then a powerful rally occurred in 1975.

A friend sent me an interesting histogram showing annual returns of the S&P from 1825 to 2007. The worst year of all was 1931, an outlier with a drop in the range of -50 to -40% Year to date, 2008 falls in this exclusive club.

To me, it seems like the bears and panic-mongers want to push for new lows. Knocking so hard on the support levels for so long usually breaks through. If there are enough of them, they can do it.

Actions

Doing nothing. I can't even re-balance Krypto Fund due to tax loss and fund exchange restrictions. Quite frustrating. I might put more money into my Alpha Fund before year end or in early 2009.

Word of the Day

"Monism" - noun [$10]
Monism means 1. any theory denying the duality of matter and mind; 2. (philosophical & theological) the doctrine that only one supreme exists; 3. a metaphysical system in which reality is viewed as unified whole.
Sentence: A propos the stock markets, one could characterise both pure fundamental and technical analysts and adherents as believers in a form of monism: denying the duality of perception and reality. Today, clearly perception rules, as it does in extremes of fear and greed. But at some time, a panic will burn out as the fuel is consumed. The lurch to reality will then begin.

25 comments:

mfl59 said...

What are you looking for as a catalyst to end this madness Bunkerman?

Bunkerman said...

Just running out of sellers is about it.

It's a panic.

Bunkerman said...

Good or even neutral news is just ignored.

mfl59 said...

a guy on cnbc just said..."I'm not a technician but I concede this is a bear market"....

well played

Bunkerman said...

Swiss National Bank cuts interest rate to 1% - AP

Where is the Ostrich ? At around 3%. Bank of England, too.

Such fools ... stilling fighting "inflation"

mern said...

imo, not just a rich mans panic, but frankly i live in an area that has just been smashed by the housing bubble.

about a mile from my home (that i will be attempting to sell, after i get cindy to sign the quit deed, on tues. she got on the deed through a clerical error and becuase i didnt do anything about it right away, i gotta pay her like 30 k to go away. i wonder if i can break even at 246 which i paid in june 2004. i hope the gud school and this new mall help) they just opened a huge, upscale mall. the place is just packed everyday and made traffic around the area insanely bad, if it wasnt bad enuff.

where do these people come from?

imo, i dont think reality has sent in on what is going.

id bet 20-40% of these people, i see at the new pub (6-20 dollar pints, no domestic) are leveraged to the hilt and dont even know they are headed into BK.

almost everyone i speak with is talking about inflation. they realized gas just wasnt that big of a chunk of what they spend in a month.

even last night i went out for sushi, and they jacked prices up. outside of energy and durable guds i dont need, i dont see inflation rolling over.

i think all of us may of underestimated the power of the wonder twins to destroy the country: sir elmer greenspan and dick "vader" cheney.

we had structual problems going into their insanity.

y oh y didnt i take the blue pill? just plug me back into the matrix becuase ignorance was bliss!

mern said...

morphis now i know the truth. i shud have told u to shove that red pill right up your ass.......

mern said...

i just watched cnbc for 10 minutes and have got to watch a south park, sarah silverman or family guy.

on of dubya boys guranteeing "the smoothest transition ever" (hey y stop lying now, right?)

criticizing the moolie for not have a treasury secretary, then poo pooing the potential candidates.

arent these the clowns that blew everything up?

who cares what they think.

then unemployment claims near 550 now. and then art.

psychologically u wud think this is a low, but again this is a bear market, with no uptick rule.

mfl59 said...

JP Morgan downgrades all dry bulk shippers...

Give that analyst a raise!!!!

mfl59 said...

Mrs. B what are we doing today?

Bunkerman said...

She is at herding. Likely to do nothing as her father is coming here today or for a couple weeks for a visit.

Bunkerman said...

what an ugly drop this morning. Ughhhh.

My optimism punished again.

Frosty said...

Bunky in the fire with you...cashed every short, even marker positions and find myself 25% long this morning...I consider myself a real buyer today, hey no one else is...with ya big guy.

Bunkerman said...

I sold my oil stocks - I'm just tired of the wild swings. Sold BHP and CCJ, too.

Just have FCX and the little shippers now.

Going to take a break for awhile and focus on Krypto Fund re-allocations.

If the market needs some capitulation, it got me worn out.

Spin-em said...

Greetings Investors,

The end of the year is approaching and now is the time to figure out how you are going to spend your soft dollars. I want to make that decision easier for you by offering a free, signed copy of my book, Invest Like A Shark and 25% off of our annual subscription rate to Shark Pro, Shark Platinum or Shark Biotech.

Bud hope you get your 25% back

mern said...

is that straight from the jjc playbook?

C below a fin.

brutal man, just brutal.

Bunkerman said...

bought more FCX, DRYS, EXM and GNK. Gonna just sit now for awhile. The shippers are ultra-risky but have biggest upside if they and the world survive.

Spin-em said...

PUT MAV ON THE STAGE!!!!!

Frosty said...

Bunky...DRYS CEO filed to sell all his shares, 15-20% owner...is this another CHK situtaion where MLF59's boy, the CEO puked on a margin call...is he out of the way?...if so could be a stong up move, worth loading the boat indeed sir.

mfl59 said...

CHK CEO is either mern's boy, or of course spin's boy, to my knowledge

Spin-em said...

looooooool buyin on margin???..prolly spins boy.looool

Bunkerman said...

sounds like it, frosty ... I've been wondering about that.

From 10Q and conf. call, seemed like they'd be a survivor.

But who knows ...

I'll buy a few more shares on another drop to 3.

mfl59 said...

ok Hank...youve said enough sir....if youre looking for a pat on the back-well....i dont see it...

Frosty said...

Hank, is that Mav's boy

mfl59 said...

is this a recession?