Monday, July 14, 2008

Just the Facts, Sir

Says Sgt. Joe Friday of that fine old TV cop show, Dragnet. So today I'll just stick to the facts as my "opinions" have been stated over & over and have not changed.

Apparently Barron's weekly reads this blog. As a reader commented over the weekend, that is NOT a badge of honor as having Ben Bernancke and Hank Paulson as readers, but it does reflect being such an opinion leader that the financial press takes cues from here for news stories. [ yes, that's a joke ;-) ]

The headline cover story in Barron's this week is "Home Prices Are About To Bottom". You heard that here first as a "theory" ... awaiting data confirmation, of course. So Barron's did some legwork for me and here are some data from the article.

1. Total inventories fell in May to 4.49 millin existing homes for sale, or a 10.8-month supply at the current sales pace, down from an 11.2 month supply in April.

2. Inventories of new homes are down 21% from a 2006 peak.

3. Home prices rose slightly in 8 of 20 markets from March to April. The pace of monthly declines is starting to slow in markets with declines.

4. Subprime housing is less that 10% of the total US housing stock, but accounts for a far larger share of current sales volume. Those sales are the ones that show the largest price declines, hence distorting headline indices.

5. Chip Case, a namesake of the S&P/Case-Shiller "is among those who think home prices may be near a bottom."

6. The article provides numerous examples that affordability ratios, viz., price to income ratios, have reverted normal levels.

7. "The performance of ABX indexes covering the fiour crummiest subprime vintages ... shows that the rate of early-stage, or 31- to 60-day, delinquencies has been falling for the past six to eight months."

8. Further, there is "a decline in the percentage of early delinquncies that advance to later stages."

"Both developments [ #7 and #8 ] tell him [the cited analyst] the cumulative-loss assumptions on these mortgages made by both the credit rating agencies and Wall Street could prove far too pessimistic." (OK, that's an opinion, not a "fact".)

9. "One can draw a similar conclusion from delinquency-inflow trends of other types of mortages, be they loans backed by home-equity lines of credit or second liens mortgages from the bubble years. Many have performed horribly, but the rate of inflow of new delinquencies suddenly has dropped in recent months.

10. "An ebbing tide of new delinquencies strongly hints that the worst may soon be over for the housing market, at least in terms of burdensome supply. The pig, in other words, is well along the python's alimentary canal."

"In hindsight, the housing bust hasn't been nearly as calamitous as depicted in the media, or as Wall Street's woes might suggest. Yes, people have lost their homes, but more than a few were mendacious [*see Word of the Day"] mortgage applicants and mere speculators, who eagerly sought out 100% margin loans, only to fold just as quickly when prices turned against them."

A table in the article shows that for a composite of 20 major markets, home prices are down about 17% from the peak around July 2006, but are up 72% from 2000 prices. So huge majorities of homeowners are well in the black. That "fact" is quite relevant a propos the fear-mongering about spreading defaults.

PS: Reading a newsletter my partner sent to me ... it's written by a hedge fund group that is a panic-monger. In the same sentence they fret about inflation and deflation. "While we remain concerned about the long-term inflation picture (3-5 years out), we are becoming increasingly alarmed about the near-term deflationary threat."

Words of the Day

"Mendacious" - adjective [$10] (this is a very old word of the day for me - the writing on my index card dates to high school years circa 1970).
Mendacious means 1. given to or characterized by deception or falsehood which is often not intended to genuinely mislead or delude; 2. lying, untruthful.
Sentence: See above.

"Protreptic - adjective or substantive [$1000]
Protreptic means (adjective) directive, instructive, didactic; (substantive) a book, writing or speech intended to exhort or instruct, an exhortation, instruction.
Sentence: Today's protreptic blog is a small effort to introduce some facts into a financial debate all too laden with fear-, panic- and opinion-mongering.

By the way, "protreptic and "paraenetic" [see a word of the day for last week] are closely related. Here is a sentence using both from the notes on a CD course on the Apostle Paul's writings: "2 Timothy has the form of a personal paraenetic letter ( a letter of advice) with elements of protreptic exhortation. This literary form was available to Paul."

55 comments:

Bud said...

'indymac bankruptcy is good for BAC'

huh???

well according to that logic ....Bman shud root for C and WFC to go bankrupts......that will be good for BAC and WB ....removes their competitors


shame on you Bman........shame on you

you know better

Bud said...

loooooool vai sikahema

an nfl punt returner vs a baseball slugger......that shud be illegal

i don't care if canseco was triple juiced and trained for a year.....no baseball player will ever beat an nfl player


i'll take the smallest nfl punt returner in a fight against the meanest baddest biggest baseball player


nfl players are the tuffest athletes......baseball players are tuffer than......golfers

Bud said...

does jim rodgers read this blog? he just said "this recession will be the worst since ww2"

Bunkerman said...

well I own stock in C, too.

It was simple, objective statement ... no reason to attach values to it.

Bunkerman said...

obviously Jimm Rogers doe sNOT read this blog.

Hmmm he hasn't even got one quarter of negative GDP yet - quite a bold claim. No even one step towards a recession yet.

time will tell.

Bunkerman said...

I watched "Animal House" last evening ... saw myself again ... think "D-Day" with the torch. ... "rammming speed"

"Whereabouts Unknown"

;-)

Bunkerman said...

nice helmet, too ;-)

Bud said...

i see the SEC listened to whiners and cry-babies like......well......you all know who i'm talkin about.....and is gonna look into 'rumor-mongering'


lmaoooooooooooooooo


maybe the SEC shud spend some time lookin into the balance sheets of american banks

Bunkerman said...

hmmm maybe the SEC reads this blog

;-)

mern said...

In the same sentence they fret about inflation and deflation. "While we remain concerned about the long-term inflation picture (3-5 years out), we are becoming increasingly alarmed about the near-term deflationary threat."

todd harrison singing this very same song. there must be 50 beefers who think all is lost and they probably spend all day IMing each other.

so in 90-91 did the govt have to bailout the 5th largest investment bank and the 2 largest mortgage providers?

if housing is bottoming y is HSBC moving just about everyone they have in loan origination to collections?

this is bottomish bottom given the level we came from, we r gonna be here or lower for a very long time.

the fed and dc really love waiting till the 11th inning to do shit.

um, by 2003, FNM's were more fried than Enron's. if u play this game and didnt know that.............

i was just early

lol

mfl59 said...

Bunkerman's mendacious decree that housing has bottom seems just a bot off base.

Bud said...

that is hilarious....the Bman and the housing bottom

maverick said...

housing bottom...ROFL
and Obama has a plan

Bunkerman said...

well, my forecast might be wrong, but it's not mendacious as I believe it.

maybe you mean, "delusional"

lol

;-)

Bunkerman said...

hmmm, perhaps "bold, perceptive or brilliantly educive" fit, too.

;-)

Bunkerman said...

did my re-balance trade for Krypto Fund: sold some GLD and SLV, bought VWO.

mern said...

dr leo.

hope u slammed some bids off the open, per my email.

LOL, im on fire, with no money on the line.

missed my dog more than the ex worden this weekend.

is it me, or is just a lot easier to troll for women in their mid 30's?

guess that saying about cow chips and women r true

mfl59 said...

bunkerman what is your opinion on the FNM/FRE plan?

mern said...

mfl, when was the last time a company said "they were fully funded" and BK didnt happen in less than 60 days?

i seriously cant remember that ever not happening.

its a dirt nap for these 2.

the fed will buy em for 2 bits.

bud was right

Bunkerman said...

I thought it is fine ... unfortunately those two agencies were mismanaged for years as political machines. In some ways much like S&Ls in 1980s - those had political clout, too.

But at least this will reform them.

Might as well reflect reality.

maverick said...

greatest escape artist ever = Franklin Raines

Bud said...

is this armageddon?

Bunkerman said...

btw, analyses that just look at the size of FNM and Freddie debt without the assets are wrong.

Most of that "debt" is just mortgage passthru securities.

Bunkerman said...

going to the barn to load belts

enjoy the ping pong

mern said...

ping pong ='s BEAR MARKET?

becuase everytime ping pong is used we usually end up down over 1% across the board.

when we go up, seems like real buyers.

ping pong must be code for real selling.

the govt wont stop bailing anyone else out, until next week and they help GS buy LEH.

pfffffffft, what a load of crap.

totally agree mav. frank shud be on death row.

what did he walk away with? like 500 mil for running one of the most important companys into the dirt.

CFC toast
fnm, fre toast
bsc toast

leh, mer, c and some others looking like toast.

was it this bad in 90?

imo, only one things gets the real buyers to come out and the shorties on the run.

raise rates 100 bips, today!

Bud said...

loooooooooool real buyers


there is no such thing....hopefully the Bman has learned that now and won't be talkin about that rubbish anymore

Spin-em said...

today reminds me of that older pitcher in Major League(the guy who played Dan Devine in Rudy)

"Ive thrown every piece of junk I could throw at em skipper"...lol

Spin-em said...

poor Yankees cant make ends meet...clink..clink..clink...PENCILS FOR SALE!!!

mfl59 said...

lmaooooooooo spinny

Bud said...

i just got a ....uh....'private email' sayin the Bman is fully armed and locked and loaded

so i shud be polite to him.....true


Bman for president !!!!!!!!!

mern said...

sal if u stay in your zip code, i seriously doubt that the bman wud make such a journey.

i remember my last trip to your hood.

at the local food market, it smelled like dead people. people were buying chix feet with food stamps. i was surprised i wasnt mugged and raped.

but if this keep up, u will probably end up owning mizner park in a few months!

Bunkerman said...

heard an interesting point re S&P futures, options

notional value is 100x the actual value of the S&P. And futures/options offset when closed.

insane amounts of trading.

Bunkerman said...

hmmm I own some real estate in Bud's area, from memory.

Maybe I should visit it

;-)

mern said...

sorry to hear that.

i never figured u for a slum lord.

:-)

mfl59 said...

does Lazlo Biryini read this blog?

"One problem with this mkt is the lack of long-term investors"

Spin-em said...

Louie..what did I tell ya we do when we buy a piece of property??

Nothinnnnn......


lool

Frosty said...

fins crashing today...beefer rumor games...bring back the uptick rule, better short selling should be eliminated.

mern said...

Fed goes to war against shady home loans
The Federal Reserve today unanimously approved new mortgage lending rules meant to crack down on shady practices -- particularly subprime loans made to borrowers with weak credit.


so i am a self admitted retard. so y in 2004 was it so freaking clear this was happening to a tard?

yet the fed, congress and the white house did nothing until 2008.

serioulsy WTF r these clowns doing?

this crap never works, y do it again. just let em die!

they cud have done something about this in 2004, 05, or 06 but becuase there was a 6 alarm fire in the living, they do nothing.

this is just another nail in the coffin that our the USA reign died 12/31/99.

down hill from there.

seeing ventura mite run for congress. he needs to be prez.

Bud said...

Bman is today just 'beefers tryin to create panic?'

thank you sir

Bunkerman said...

lol Bud ... not "trying", -> succeeding

btw, mern, in 1990 many major insurance companies went under ... hundreds of S&Ls ... #6 investment bank (Drexel)... nearly all banks in Texas

hmmm isn't that when prior C almost went under, too ?

Bunkerman said...

isn't it odd that the consumer is bk, but 1 million 3G iPhones sold in one weekend.

but facts don't matter any more.

mern said...

i dont know what worldwide sales of the iphone has to do with the bailouts of major major fins, but im retarded.


how much money did the fed lend out in 1990 to other institutions?

y did the fed cut more aggresively than even, and yet that tape still went into bearish territory?

seiously did they really bailout anything close to the size of fannie and freddie.

and what makes it worse this time is the boomers r looking to retire now.

im hearing people in their 50's here saying. at the begining of the yr i though i cud retire when i hit 70. now im convinced i will die in debt. and these r people making 6 figures, easily, just have 1 or 2 kids to put through college.

but retail sales in the UK look gud, so y worry?

Bud said...

a 'krypto' sighting in the tank


'where's the guy that lived in a bunker?'


lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

mfl59 said...

no wonder you are so harsh with bunky Bud....your mentor really didnt care for him...

kenny banya indeed...

mern said...

thats 40 or 50 bucks down the drain.

bud next time u want to give money to big mac or bman money to revy.

just let me know. send me half. ill come visit, kick u in the balls, and call it even.

mern said...

y dont they just call it roundtee?


hey jerry, u like soup?

thats gold!

Bunkerman said...

actually it's a commercial property with a strong corporate tenant. But yes, "questionable area" but excellent location within that .

Bunkerman said...

if there's a "krypto" in the tank, it's a faker - hoax.

Just finished my 1919 A4 belts ... now the M60, then Ma deuce.

Bud said...

Bman is the action today '1920s type manipulation' ?


thank you sir

mern said...

But yes, "questionable area" but excellent location within that .


bud can probably see that from his "balcony" ie fire escape.

mfl59 said...

The U.S. economy is in a recession, possibly the worst since World War II, Jim Rogers said.

``They're ruining what has been one of the greatest economies in the world,'' Rogers said. Bernanke and Paulson ``are bailing out their friends on Wall Street but there are 300 million Americans that are going to have to pay for this.''


a crusader for the common man

Bunkerman said...

yes, Bud .. rumor-mongering banks to profit from shorts.

Frosty said...

WM not trading 3 handle on 200 mil beasuse off a rumor.

Bunkerman said...

WM should have sold out to JPM, not that private equity bunch.

Rumors create fear creates panics.

mern said...

Responding to a sharp plunge in its share price and investor worry about continued problems in the mortgage market, Washington Mutual says it has enough spare cash and strong capital ratios to handle the downturn.


in other news WAMU funeral aggrangement are for this weekend.

it never fails!